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The Joy of Binoculars

Discussion in 'General Astronomy Chat' started by aeajr, Feb 4, 2016.

The Joy of Binoculars

Started by aeajr on Feb 4, 2016 at 8:52 PM

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  1. aeajr

    aeajr Well-Known Member

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    Beginners can be so annoying. I should know as I am one of these people who, when he finds a new interest, becomes obsessed with it and talks about it with friends. Good way to chase people away that you don't like. [​IMG]


    However I have been surprised by how many people are interested. It seems many have tried astronomy but backed away because they had no help or guidance. A lot of them have telescopes of one kind or another sitting in a closet.


    I had a little personal Star Party for a friend about a month ago. I had 3 scopes as well as 10X50 and 15X70 binoculars out for use. We talked about his interest in astronomy and my getting back into it 8 months ago. Between an 8" Dob, an 80 mm refractor and a 76 MM reflector we looked at the Orion Nebulae as our sample for the evening. I like this one because it can just barely be seen naked eye where I live so I can point it out with my green laser.


    This was something he had never taken notice of before. When we put the binoculars and then the telescopes on it he was fascinated, having never seen this before.


    We also looked at the Pleiades. This is probably my favorite binocular target and he was impressed. In my opinion the Pleiades look best in binoculars.


    I tell this story because of all the glass I had out, it was the 10X50 binoculars that really held his attention. Understand that this is about a Bortel 7 light polluted area so there are very few stars in the sky. Gemini is almost devoid of stars unless it is VERY clear. I have parts of the Southern sky that are blank. I did a survey one night and the dimmest stars I could see were around mag 3.5, so I say my visual limit is about mag 4.


    So, when he put the 10X50s up to his eyes he could not believe how many more stars he could see in my $25 Gordon 10X50s that I purchased at Harbor Freight. I understood because I had the same reaction only a few months ago. We looked in the scopes at different magnifications and we shifted to different targets but he would not put down the 10X50s.

    I told him to take them home, along with my planisphere. A few weeks later I offered to sell him the set for $10 to get him launched. For $10 we sealed the deal and he is now solidly into astronomy. I have a star buddy. [​IMG]

    So, we are both at a dinner together last Friday night. My wife's Rotary club, about 15 couples. He starts to talk about the stars and the star party and the binoculars. There were several people who were interested but one of the women was really into it. And she was surprised you could start with binoculars. Others commented that they had binoculars and never thought of turning them skyward.


    Saturday night I organized a Star Party and invited 6 people to join me. I had a dentist appointment Saturday morning so I told my dentist about my new hobby. He wanted to hear more. I asked if he had binoculars and pulled out some really nice Nikon 8X40s and asked if these would be good enough. Sure! He was planning to join us that night. His assistant has two boys and she was thinking of coming too. (I am the pied piper of hobbies. [​IMG] )


    Saturday night 9pm was the gathering time at a darker area. Around 8:30 I was packing the car to go to a darker site for the gathering. Sky was forecast to be clear till midnight but the clouds rolled in around 8:30. We will reschedule. [​IMG]


    Despite the clouds I slipped in some 10 minute binocular viewings in the sky rivers that came and went using my 15X70s on the monopod. I love them but was really missing my 10X50s, my are weapon of choice for these quick views. I needed to replace them.


    Oberwerk had a closeout on Garrett Gemini 10X50s so I picked up a pair. They arrived today. In daylight they look REALLY nice. Crisp and bright and feel very good in the hand. Hopefully I can find a sky river among the clouds soon, or maybe even have a clear night to try them on the sky.


    Bottom line, I love binoculars. With all the other glass that I have, the 10X50s get so much use and give me so much enjoyment. I will probably take them with me on my next business trip too.


    And when I have people over for my little sky gazing gatherings they all love the 10X50s. I am thinking of adding some 7X35s for kids and people who might feel the 10X50s are too hard to hold.


    Beginners, buy your telescopes but don't forget the binoculars. They are so wonderful for quick views and for travel. They are a joy!
     
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    Ed, have you tried looking at the Pleiades either through your ETX 80 with the 26mm Plossl, or even your XT8i with the 38mm EP? I have the optically very similar Orion ST-80, also an f/5, 400mm f/l refractor. The Pleiades are beyond gorgeous in it. The best part about looking at them through a telescope as opposed to binoculars is that they are completely rock steady, not shaking around like they do through handheld binoculars. And, of course, it's also nice to look at the Pleiades while sitting down so you can look at them longer.

    But that's awesome that you have a star buddy. Keep spreading the gospel! Outreach sure is fun, ain't it?

    By the way, I had that exact same forecast here in Manhattan, and yup, the clouds rolled in far ahead of schedule. Those hourly forecasts are just plain awful.
     
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    Yes I have used the ETX 80 and 26mm plossl and you are right the Pleiades look wonderful and, as you said, rock steady. But I do love them in the 10X50s too.

    In fact the reason I bought the 38 mm 70 degree eyepiece for the XT8i was for the Pleiades and others like them. I love that low power wide view of that beautiful start cluster.
     
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    The Pleiades? Oh yes - I think I have some dim recall about those, way back in the Long-Ago Time. Before the sky was filled with clouds and snow filled the land.....

    But seriously, I couldn't agree more that the diminutive ST80 telescope is the perfect tool for M45. In fact it was the last object I was viewing with my ST80 before we were covered over in steady clouds. I spent a whole night viewing these celestial jewels. And I'd ordered a new 80° eyepiece to augment my planned future foray into the nebulosity of Merope (Μερόπη). But alas - my eyepiece arrived along with steady overcast that has yet to lift. With the exception of a 15 minute window of clarity. But by the time I'd grabbed my 15 X 70mm binoculars..... Well - you can guess the rest.

    In the meantime, I landed yet another EP for M45 - a 2" 70° 32mm monster from University Optics in Ann Arbor, Michigan. I can't wait to try out the beast! But it looks like I'll have to.

    Who sent Seattle's weather to Vermont?

    Dave
     
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    A clear night last night. How odd!

    Got the new Garrett 10x50s out. Great views of Orion, Pleiades and just generally trying them out on the sky. I am very happy with my purchase.

    We have 10" of snow on the ground so I dug out an area and pulled out my ETX 80 for some quality time with Jupiter. 2 hours was spent with the king of the planets. Sky was clear but seeing was poor. At 186X the two major dark bands kept drifting in and out of focus.

    But I finished the night with a view in the new Garrets. Beautiful!
     
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    I have a pair of 7X28s that needed some attention. I now have them working and will add them to the mix for the benefit of children or people with small hands. I may use these as travel binoculars as there are small and light so they won't add a lot to my airline baggage weight and if they get lost or damaged I am not concerned. Not a lot of aperture but when I am on a business trip I don't have a lot of time for star gazing, but on the most recent trip I would have enjoyed having them for a 15 minute sky fix. ;)
     
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    I had a personal Star Party at my house last night.

    Among the people who came was my friend who now has my Harbor Freight Gordon 10X50 binoculars ($20 with cupon). This was only his second night out. Having him there gave me a chance to compare the Gordon 10X50s to the Garrett 10x50s I just purchased ($89).

    The Garretts are brighter and a bit sharper. However the Gordons are lighter and perhaps a touch larger which gave them a good comfortable feel in the hand. Clearly the Garretts are better but for $20 I still think the HF Gordon 10X50 are a heck of a bargain and completely worthwhile for someone just getting started on a tight budget, looking for a second pair to toss in the car or for group nights. I still enjoyed using them.
     
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    I also bought a budget bino, I've yet to add in my signature, but I grabbed a pair of $30 Simmons 10x50 at Walmart, and was actually quite impressed with them. They now have permanent residence in the console of the car as my knock around pair! Binos are GREAT! Night or day.
     

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