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The planets

Discussion in 'General Astronomy Chat' started by Nebula, Dec 9, 2017.

The planets

Started by Nebula on Dec 9, 2017 at 12:05 PM

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  1. Nebula

    Nebula Well-Known Member

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    Hello, i wonder a bit when the planets will come back in the evening, the usual time I am out is between 18:00 and 23:00 AM during winter and 21:00 to 2:00 during summer.

    I can look at every single day in Stellarium to locate the planets during these periods but it takes time. Is there a way to locate the planets for a specific time and day and including the height in the sky so i can plan things for the upcoming months.

    Like fictive example:
    Oh! in the month of January Venus will be at 20 degrees at evening, the highest height at 23:00.

    Thanks
     
  2. Mak the Night

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    Cartes du Ciel has a good graphic planetary visibility position indicator. I had a bit of a time installing CDC on Ubuntu LTS, although I've been told it was pretty easy to install on Mint.

    planet.png

    https://www.ap-i.net/skychart/en/download
     
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    I see Mars is at about 17 degrees in the morning 5:00 AM It's a bit low.. should i wake up to look at it?
     
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    I installed it on my old laptop that ran Ubuntu. This thread from the Ubuntu forums is me trying to install it on my newer laptop lol.

    https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2359195
     
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    I dunno, depends on how die hard you feel at the time. Until opposition next year it will just be a little red dot.
     
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    Ok thank you for the tip, I am searching about the oppositions of the planets now. To pinpoint their best periods.

    Actually I am planning to order 3 more color filters from Agena that's why I am studying the planets right now.
     
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    Waa July 27 the next mars opposition is going to be a very interesting one!!! better then 2016
     
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    Jupiter might be a better bet. I saw Jupiter at opposition this year quite low and even managed to catch a Ganymede transit.

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    Ganymede transit and Jupiter opposition 7/4/17, 21:07 local time. There was a bright Moon but the seeing was good. I was using the 130mm Newtonian and a 5mm TS Optics Planetary HR for 180x.

    j2.png j1.png

    Of course, I saw this inverted!
     
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    Ok ok nice, you looked at the opposition while the planet was low has your second picture? Has I see here the planet was as it's best at around midnight. (+- 40d maximum height)

    Jeez I have to stop missing these events, looked great with the moon transit.
     
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    I choose my next 3 color filters using Agena's chart and descriptions. It's going to be
    #23a Light Red
    #38a Dark Blue
    #56 Light Green

    I take a risk with the #38a Dark blue with 8" aperture but I have confidence my telescope will deliver for Venus and Jupiter they are bright.. Could take #47 instead but #38a seems more versatile for more planets.

    I already have 80a and #21

    What do you think of my choices Mak?

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    I didn't expect it to be that good that low, I even think the bright Moon helped somewhat as Jupiter is very bright at opposition.
     
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    Help from the moon, how can that be?
     
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    I think they're decent choices.

    Wratten #23A Light Red 25% Transmission. Can often reveal detail on a bright twilight Venus and is beneficial when the Moon is approaching full. Also good for some Martian features. Makes a daylight blue sky appear black. Best with apertures 150mm and over. I don't use this a lot myself.

    Wratten #38A Dark Blue, 17% T. Can drastically sharpen, define and reveal the phase on a bright daylight or twilight Venus, even with telescope apertures as small as 90mm. May reveal cloud detail. Useful for Full Moon viewing at low power.

    Wratten #56 Light Green, 53% T. Good with lunar contrast, helps viewing Martian polar caps, reveals red features and the GRS on Jupiter and Saturn. Good for reducing glare on Jupiter and Saturn when they are bright targets and is often useful used on a bright twilight Venus to reveal phase.

    I'd consider these next:

    Wratten #47 Violet, 5% T. Similar to the #38A and works on smaller scopes with a very bright Venus (especially in daylight), although generally too aggressive for apertures under 200mm. Interesting for Full Moon viewing utilising exit pupils of around 3.5mm ~ 4mm even on smaller apertures (particularly with SCT and Maksutov type telescopes).

    Wratten #11 Yellow Green, 78% T. Can show as much, if not more, surface detail on Mars as a Baader Neodymium filter and can darken maria. Exceptionally improves Saturn's rings and emphasises the Cassini Division, definitely improves colours and contrast in Saturn's surface features. Can enhance Jupiter immensely, especially red and brown features.

    Wratten #80A Medium Blue, 30% T/Baader Blue 470nm Bandpass. Good all round lunar contrast filter. Excels as a contrast filter on a very bright Jupiter and darkens the GRS. Enhances Saturn's surface features and some ring detail. Helps with Martian surface features and especially revealing polar caps. Can show Venusian cloud details that aren't normally well contrasted. I tend to use the Baader equivalent but it's a good filter to have.
     
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    Jupiter's very bright at opposition and it's quite dark in my back garden. Sometimes it's easier to see detail with a twilight Jupiter. I think the bright Moon acted a bit like that in some way. I've noticed a similar effect when Jupiter is in the Moon's vicinity.
     
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    Thanks for your feedback, I might trow a 4th filter in there yeah. I like you suggestion with #11 yellow (It's 40% on agena's website)

    https://agenaastro.com/choosing-a-color-planetary-filter.html

    #11 Should be good on mars, jupiter and saturn.
    #12 Shoud be better on mars and good on jupiter and venus instead of saturn.

    I'll pick 1 of these 2 (11 or 12) violet is very close to 38a so I am not sure and I already have 80a, which it's good on the moon so far.

    They have GSO brand on Agena, did you ever tried these filters Mak ?
     
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    All of my TS Optics filters are actually GSO. I'm not sure where I got 78% from for the #11. I'd wager it was more than 40% though. It certainly transmits more than the 67% of the #15A Dark Yellow filter.

    MaxthonSnap20171210023935.jpg

    As you can see GSO's site is a tad vague lol.

    http://www.gs-telescope.com/content.asp?id=131

    I got these figures off the net somewhere, they seem about right:

    AD050 #58 Dark Green 24% T

    AD051 #56 Light Green 53% T

    AD052 #38A Dark Blue 17% T

    AD053 #80A Medium Blue 30% T

    AD054 #82A Light Blue 73% T

    AD055 #15A Dark Yellow Filter 67% T

    AD056 #12 Deep Yellow 74% T

    AD057 #8 Light Yellow 83% T

    AD058 #11 Yellow/Green Filter 78% T

    AD059 #25 Red 14% T

    AD060 #23A Light Red Filter 25% T

    AD061 #47 Violet 3% T

    AD062 #21 Orange 46% T

    AD063 #29 Dark Red Filter 7% T

    AD083 #96ND 50% T – Density 0.3

    AD084 #96ND 25% T – Density 0.6

    AD085 #96ND 13% T – Density 0.9

    The #11 Yellow Green is one of my most used filters. It's often stated that the Blue #80A is the 'Jupiter filter', I think Orion even market it as such.

    MaxthonSnap20171210025403.jpg

    I call the #11 Yellow Green the 'Saturn filter' as it's so good on Saturn. It's equally good on Mars though for some reason. If I could only have one coloured filter it would be the #11.
     
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    @Dave In Vermont, Yeah really busy has you can see :p

    I thought the green filter from your previous thread was about canceling of chromatic aberration from a retractor. telescope. So I thought it was not really useful for a newtonian...

    I took the #56 instead, from the Agena's list it can do almost the same thing has the #58 but with a better transmission, we never know.

    Ahhhgg the Orion Full kit of color filter, gneeeeee
    I would like to have the full Orion Kit but I find it too expensive... that's 390 CAD. I have 100$.. not 400 now that's the problem.

    https://www.amazon.ca/Orion-5453-20...iple+Colors)+Be+the+first+to+review+this+item

    @Mak the Night ,ok then if I order the filters, I'll trow the #11 with the 3 other filters. The #11 Saturn Filter!

    But now my motivation is shattered a bit.
     

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